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Tempiic
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(4/5/04 1:32 pm)
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Re: will give answer soon
Game A 1 vs 1: climate arid, in spring, in High era, map Flatinland04.
Date: Friday, Saterday or Sunday? (9th, 10th, 11th) (time?)

Game B) 1 vs 1: climate lush, in summer, in Late era, map Flatinland06.
Date: 7 april wednesday, evening time cet (will be played before or after 3v3)

Game C) 1 vs 1: climate rocky desert, in autumn, in Early era, map Legnano.
Date: 9 april friday: late evening cet

Game D) 2 vs 2: climate temperate, winter, High era, Campaign Milan.
Date: 7 or 8 april (wednesday or thursday) at 9 pm cet

Game E) 2 vs 2: climate lush, in spring, in Early era, Marj'ayyun. On this map the attackers defend and the defenders must attack.
Date: Friday, Saterday, Sunday or Monday? (9th, 10th, 11th, 12th) (time?)

Game F) 3 vs 3 climate arid, in summer, in High era, map Flatinland 15
Date: 7 april wednesday, evening time cet (past 8pm cet most likely)

Rules:
3 1v1's, 2 2v2's, 1 3v3 set up (default)
each army allowed once per scenario and has to be same(default)
2 unit max limit (default)
artilly allowed (default)
10K per army


For the scoring, I've asked Soul to inform me whether some variants were actually made standard and default in the passing time where that rules file you used was created and the current moment. This should not interfere at all in the actual games being played, so I do not see any delays coming from this.

Our faction list has been send some time ago... We are sure we can expect no less than to see the complete factionlist posted around here tomorrow. There can be no doubt how eager the Elites are to play this round of games. With their impressing list of average games played on a weekly base we are sure that no problems will arise with our suggested dates and times for game B, C, D and F. Furthermore we do not accept any rescheduling due to your clan's choice of playing the phoenix clan at the same time






ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/5/04 4:28 pm)
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Re: will give answer soon
*beep beep*

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With their impressing list of average games played on a weekly base we are sure that no problems will arise with our suggested dates and times for game B, C, D and F. Furthermore we do not accept any rescheduling due to your clan's choice of playing the phoenix clan at the same time


Yup, neither we will accept rescheduling...but note, your times are only suggestions and there is not any date fixed yet ;)

I think the negotiations about the rules are finished. We will send our faction list to Soul now.

Cya on the battlefield.

*beep beep*

The Soul682
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(4/8/04 1:05 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
Here's the factions, in order ELITE vs FF.

Game A) FlatInland04, High era, Arid, Spring
Turkish vs French

Game B) FlatInland06, Late era, Lush, Summer
Germans vs Spanish

Game C) Legnano, Early era, Rocky Desert, Autumn
French vs Almohad

Game D) Campaign Milan, High era, Temperate, Winter
Danish and Papacy vs Egyptians and Turkish

Game E) Marj'ayyun, Early era, Lush, Spring
Byzantine and Hungarian vs Byzantines and Hungarians

Game F) Flatinland 15, High era, Arid, Summer
Almohad, English and Italians vs Germans, Italians and English


Please note Gazoz: You cannot play two challenges at the same time. It is one, then the other. This is stated in the rules.

Since you have sent your faction list for the FF challenge, I'm assuming you will play this first.

(If you do play both at the same time, I won't be able to consider both as CWB matches, and you won't gain points for one of them.)

It is the rule, sorry m8.

Ithaskar Fëarindel/The Soul

Edited by: The Soul682 at: 4/8/04 11:14 pm
ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/8/04 8:48 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
*beep beep*

@soul

Soul, please quote the rule if you say, it is in the rules.

Here are the rules:
Quote:
Challenges

c) A Clan gains two Challenge Points for defeating another Clan in a game series. If their opponent has more Challenge Points, they gain three instead of two. Losing a game series neither costs nor earns the Clan any Challenge Points.

d) Clans may declare formal challenges. Each Clan may make one such challenge at a time, and may make another when the first challenge is resolved. Clans gain the right to make these formal challenges after the completion of their first fully-supervised game series.

e) The Champion is not be required to respond to any formal challenges -- nor may they declare such challenges. Clans involved in a scheduled game series are not required to respond to formal challenges until their current game series is completed. Clans which lack any Challenge Points are also immune to formal challenges. A Clan facing more than one challenge may choose the sequence they will respond to those challenges.

f) A Clan loses one Challenge Point for refusing a formal challenge by another Clan. Refusal is a failure to accept and schedule the game series within one month of the declaration of the challenge (or the date of completion of their current game series). The Clan whose challenge is refused gains one Challenge Point.

g) Informal challenges and match-ups are also encouraged. Challenge Points will be awarded for these competitions as well.

h) A Clan is not permitted to challenge the same opposing Clan again until one or the other has entered the Title Match.

i) All games must be governed by the rules and supervised properly by a Referee (see Rule #2). If game series are played without supervision, or if the replay files are not made available, no Challenge Points will be awarded.


Now show me, where it is stated, that we canīt play a informal challenge and a formal challenge at the same time.

I think you mess up the meaning of formal challenges and informal challenges. Each Clan is allowed to make one formal challenge and another when the challenge is resolved.

But we have one formal challenge against FF and another informal challenge against Fenice.

Each Clan may make one FORMAL challenge at a time, and may make another when the first challenge is resolved. It is stated in rule 1 d) second sentence.

Rule g says cleary, informal challenges are also encouraged and we gain points from it as well. We challenged AdF informally and they accepted the informal challenge. According to the rules we can play as many informal challenges as we want. There is no restrictions stated in the rules.

And the read rule e) Clans involved in a scheduled game series are not required to respond to formal challenges until their current game series is completed. BUT THEY CAN. IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO RESPOND TO ANOTHER FORMAL CHALLENGE.

Furhter in rule e) Clan facing more than one challenge may choose the sequence they will respond to those challenges.

MAY CHOSE MEANS NOT MUST CHOSE.

Sorry Soul, but I have heavily objections against your decisions.

We ask you to discuss our objection immediately. I am very surprised about the fact, that the referee wants to restrict the fun in playing CWB matches. You are clearly saying, donīt play so much CWB !!! That must be a joke.

Well, Paolai, didnīt you really missed me? ;)

*beep beep*

ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/8/04 8:56 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
where is the faction list of game F) ???

Paolai
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(4/8/04 9:02 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
yes Gaz :D

Masago 
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(4/8/04 12:30 pm)
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Re: will give answer soon
I think that Gaz is right :)
The Phoinix challenge, is an informal one :) so it's all right with the rules.

E-mail: ad7598@hotmail.com




Maximus Decimus Meridius


HISPANICO HISPANICO HISPANICO HISPANICO!!!!!!!

The Soul682
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(4/8/04 11:07 pm)
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Re: will give answer soon
Ok... wrong again. I'll just find the nearest noose...

Ithaskar Fëarindel/The Soul

The Soul682
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(4/8/04 11:10 pm)
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Re: will give answer soon
Ok sorry F) will be there in a mo, I must have missed it when I copied and pasted from the text file.

Ithaskar Fëarindel/The Soul

Tempiic
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(4/9/04 9:08 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
*general whatever look*

Anyways... we have agreed to postpone the games untill after eastern weekend and first scheduling can take part from thursday the 15th


On a second note, we have agreed to make use of the warbelt scoring system and tool... though we would also like to have acces to this tool as the only link i have to it is outdated






Paolai
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(4/9/04 9:17 am)
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Re: will give answer soon
you can download it here:

www.clan-wolves.com/web-w...ik-v03.zip

If you have probs during the installation you can check at the Wolves download/VI page, or contact Magyar to solve them

ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/9/04 12:57 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
*beep beep*

@paolo

thk u, m8


@tempiic and whole FF clan

yep the aggrements were done with bomilkar, have a nice eastern holiday all, and let me express ELITEs intention: we will do our best, that FF is not blocked from the next title challenge, cuz you really deserved it

we just want to play REAL CHALLENGES and FF is a REAL CHALLENGE FOR US

so good luck and have fun with the games, all!

*beep beep*

LRossaLordJimi 
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(4/10/04 5:58 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
GL brothers and sisters :D
Ave


LRossaLordJimi - Visconte di Andria e Barletta - Difensore dell'Ordine



Tempiic
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(4/14/04 11:14 am)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
thanks...

For scheduling... I was thinking to let the 1v1's be played as soon as they meet... starting from this friday...


The 2v2 winter game can be played monday or tuesday the 19th or 20th...

The other 2v2 for tuesday or wednesday the 20th or 21th

and the 3v3 thursday the 22th...

All evening cet times...






ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/14/04 6:22 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
*beep beep*

Thx sister Jimi ;)

Ok Tempiic,

our CWB team for the games

1v1) High: Bomilkar
1v1) Late: Imperator
1v1) Early: Marcaurel

2v2) Winter: Imperator/Marcaurel
2v2) Early: Bomilkar/Gazoz

3v3) Bomilkar/Gazoz/Shagall

If you list the names of ur players, especially the 1v1 players, scheduling games could be more easy, the players could arrange times for themselves. Weekend as from friday sounds good. I will response to ur suggested times for the 2v2 and 3v3 soon. I have personally no objections but I have to suggest it in our forum first.

Cya and gl.

*beep beep*

Edited by: ELITEofGAZOZ Usami  at: 4/14/04 6:31 pm
ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/14/04 9:14 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
*beep beep*

Available times and dates of ELITE team

cet = central european time
cet = gmt + 1
Germany has summertime, that means diffference to cet is +1h, and to gmt: + 2h

1v1) High: Bomilkar:
Tomorrow, Thursday evening
Friday/Saturday not available
Sunday as from 20:00 cet (21 Uhr nach deutscher Sommerzeit)

1v1) Late: Imperator:
Saturday/Sunday as from 16:00 cet (17 Uhr nach deutscher Sommerzeit)


1v1) Early: Marcaurel
Saturday as from 16:00 h (17h D)
Sunday evening at 19:30 h at latest (20:30 D)

2v2) Winter: Imperator/Marcaurel
Monday/Tuesday between 19:00 cet and 19:30 cet latest gamestart. (20 h bis 20:30 in D)

2v2) Early: Bomilkar/Gazoz
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday evening

3v3) Bomilkar/Gazoz/Shagall
Thursday evening

*beep beep*

Edited by: ELITEofGAZOZ Usami  at: 4/15/04 7:51 am
ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/15/04 7:53 am)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
we will be in the lobby only if you pick a fixed date/time from all available times here in the forum

Tempiic
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(4/16/04 2:30 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
you got a flair to make things unneedesly complicated...

since all of europe (least those countries falling in cet zone) change to summertime at the same time, I believe cet times are always adjusted to summer time.... unlike gmt...


2v2) Winter: Imperator/Marcaurel
Monday/Tuesday between 19:00 cet and 19:30 cet latest gamestart. (20 h bis 20:30 in D)

monday one game at 2100 cet? other game the next day at same time?

2v2) Early: Bomilkar/Gazoz
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday evening

can skip monday... just waiting for return of some players to give you exact times... as well as whether it will be tuesday or wednesday

3v3) Bomilkar/Gazoz/Shagall
Thursday evening

most likely from 2000 cet

1v1) High: Bomilkar:
Tomorrow, Thursday evening
Friday/Saturday not available
Sunday as from 20:00 cet (21 Uhr nach deutscher Sommerzeit)

opponent will be gustavus2 unless subsituted... I pass him the times... As it looks at first glance, sunday is most likeliest

1v1) Late: Imperator:
Saturday/Sunday as from 16:00 cet (17 Uhr nach deutscher Sommerzeit)

opponent will be heart unless subsituted... I pass her the times.

1v1) Early: Marcaurel
Saturday as from 16:00 h (17h D)
Sunday evening at 19:30 h at latest (20:30 D)

opponent will be viking unless subsituted, times will be passed on... as it looks, saterday seems to look more favourable


All cet times are adjusted by summer time.... we reserve the right to subsitute players at any time without prior notice






ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/16/04 9:38 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
tempiic, tempiic, u never smile eh?

ur clan is going to face an excellent challenge and i donīt feel u have any fun...:p

Quote:
since all of europe (least those countries falling in cet zone) change to summertime at the same time, I believe cet times are always adjusted to summer time


sorry but unfortunately u r wrong

cet (central european time) is = gmt +1, besides that there is a central european summertime = gmt +2

i wasnt aware if u know that little fact, know i c u mean gmt+2, players messed up a whole internet tourney once, ignoring that little fact

me complicated?...hehe, everything is so easy, isnt it? itīs obvious, u r in a bad mood, and the reason could be, that u have to play vs ELITE and not for the title, sorry for that, @#%$ happens ;)

but if u really think, i force u to think too much, than let me say sorry, i ll ask Tinksta to post in teletubby style instead of me, just for you... :D

letīs come to the dates:

2v2) Winter: Imperator/Marcaurel
Monday 21:00 cet, first game
Tuesday 21:00 cet, second game

FIXED

3v3) Bomilkar/Gazoz/Shagall
Thursday 20 cet

FIXED

waiting for further replay, hopefully in a better mood :)

ELITEofGAZOZ Usami 
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(4/19/04 8:17 pm)
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Re: ELITE FORCE formally challenges Freedom Fighters
we had some delays due to FFīs no show ups

- Bomi was waiting for his opponent sunday evening, FF named no player for the 1v1 at the moment :( cuz gustavus2 pulled back, i hope FF finds a substitute asap

- imp/marc missed the monday 2v2 opponents, allthough the game was fixed, what happened?

I cant imagine FF has problems to bring the teams up, i c still many FFīs online

lets look forward, many games to play

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