I personally think that the death penalty is too harsh in most cases...anyone ever see "Dead Man Walking", or read John Grisham's "The Chamber?" But in this case...I don't see how parole in 40 years suits the crime...she killed 5 innocent young children...nothing is too harsh in this case...
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I don't believe in the death penalty at all. First of all, we are punishing her with a thing she did herself...murder. Second of all, since when did God give us authority to decide who lives and who dies...remember this is why we hate her and she is being punished in the first place, because she made a decision that wasn't hers to make.
Finally, killing her would put her at peace, letting her suffer in jail is way worse then letting her off easy with a death penaltey. She will either be killed in prison (by women in jail that are mothers) or she will live a long, boring, insane life locked up in a cell that is 6ft by 6ft.
I am not saying she is innocent or deserves better, but when I go to the Gates of Heaven I don't want to have 'killer' on my resume and voting for the death penaltey is just the same!
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Being a mom of 3 I frankly think that I would have drowned the hubby first. I don't understand how anyone could do what she did. I don't think lethal injection would be punishment enough for her. I say sterilize her, give her that 6'x6' cell with wallpaper of nothing but pictures of her children, before AND after.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." - Calvin
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(3/18/02 1:01 pm) Reply
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I'll semi-agree with BoosterMom...only I think they should hold her head under the water Juuuuust until she starts to drown then pull her up to a lifesize picture of her babies. Repeat as needed. While I don't like the idea of my taxes paying for this woman's therapy, doctors and care in prison; not to mention the money Texas will get to spend on all the appeals her attorney's will file. Now we'll have to endure the husband's plan to sue the doctors who took her off medication. Does that mean we can sue the doctors for not steilizing both of these people? If he was so blind that he couldn't see the condition his wife was in around her 5 kids, then perhaps he shouldn't be a parent either.
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But he wanted to be a "MANLY MAN" and show how fertile he is...
<<<if hubby ever came in to find me stabbing my first child with a butter knife he had better throw my arse in the nearest mental hospital immediately.
<shaking head> Just can't understand any of it...
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." - Calvin
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Glad I stumbled by, I could spend hours on this but will attempt to be brief. I am a firm believer in the death penalty and think it is not given out enough or soon enough. If you think they need an appeal give them one shot in six months or less, bring your best cards to the table, it fails you go straight to the room afterward.
You think you need to punish them by letting them suffer in a jail cell ... well I heard that this female creature is going to a jail where she will be with other female creatures who have killedone or more of their children. Now do you really think the other prisoners will find what she did wrong and take care of it themselves? Now I would agree with you if she went to a "regular" prison where the other women would think she did something wrong.
The killer ended the kids lives, did not give them the choice of watching TV, eating three meals a day, taking showers, getting to see visitors, ALL FOR FREE, courtesy of me and you honest law abiding tax payers. So why should it get those options?
Let her die under water, bring her back to life and do it five times! Then boil her in OIL! I agree death is a light sentence but it is the harshest we have.
NOW I might go with life in prison if it meant life in prison and we got some hard labor out it... Put them in tents and fed them the same quality food that is in the public school system. But air conditioned, heated, well feeding places is way too easy.
Also, security ... String up a barbed wire fence and place the guards around with a 30-06 or 273 MAG. you get on the fence or try and cross it you shoot to kill. PLain and simple. No questions asked. You only get shot if you try and escape.
OH WELL, Texas justice has gooten soft on this case. NO threat to society...thats crazy.
As for authority from God ... well we were given the responsibility of being good stewards ... part of that is culling those elements that harm this world. So I deduce culling the gene pool as an authorized means to good stewardship.
DAWG GONE!
Djay2Tx Mistress of Veils
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(3/20/02 9:30 am) Reply
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and the choir said AMEN, brother, AMEN!
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I thought she should have gotten the death penalty at first also. Now I'm glad she got life in prison. Now she has to think about what she did and live with the image of her oldest son begging for forgiveness while being drowned by her!!!
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well, I must say that y'all seem to have covered all the bases, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway. I'd choose life inprisonment, but I think she should not be eligible for parole. In some cases, I believe that the system should strive for rehabilitation, and not merely punishment. this is not the case here. I have to leave now, so I'll finish quickly. I think that instead of killing her, which wouldn't really save us all that much money, because she still gets her appeals, and they will still take years and years, Why not just put her in solitary for the duration of her sentence? With no companionship at all for 40+ years, if she wasn't crazy before, she sure will be then. also, I wouldn't be opposed to some of the non-fatal tortures, I.e. the chinese water type.
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To be even more cruel, pictures before and after should be plastered to the walls of her cell for her viewing pleasure during her "stay"...
Plus it should be mandatory that she be spayed immediately, and frankly I believe her hubby should fixed also. He continued to get his wife pregnant even though he, the family and the medical community KNEW that she was mentally dysfunctional.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." - Calvin
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(5/25/02 11:07 am) Reply
biblical support for the death penalty...
Just reading through these posts i wondered what exactly would be the "christian" thing to do, so I asked the preacher at my church and he gave me these scriptures to read. I think they pretty much speak for themselves... Just to let the record stand i think we should have killed her. "An eye for an eye..."
"Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death." - Numbers 35:31
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgement you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." - Matthew 7:1-5
"How would you like it if you were a business executive and when you made a mistake, a red-light went on and 18,000 people started screaming?"
-Jacques Plante
And this is one reason why...
I would never be chosen for any jury involving injury or death of a child. I know good and well that God will have more than enough punishment for her when they meet, but my anger would supercede any rational thinking.
BUT, if it *were* my place to place punishment, I go with all the above.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." - Calvin
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I don't understand how anyone could do what she did. I don't think lethal injection would be punishment enough for her. I say sterilize her, give her that 6'x6' cell with wallpaper of nothing but pictures of her children, before AND after.
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