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Anvil1972
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(6/22/03 11:42 am)
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Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
I need help with a template. Here's what I want to be able to do with it:

1) stealth
2) track
3) actually be able to kill someone 1 on 1 in PvP

What I would do with this character is camp enemy trainers and shops late at night. Also, would want to assinate other players as "payback".

By picking the target, and time (by shop and trainers, I should know who will go there). Basicly I'd kill one person then recall.

Also, would like to hunt stealthed people around our town... so maybe a rune with AoE if possible would be good.

Remember, this character doesn't have to have a ton of mana or heal... Just has to be able to kill 1 guy really, really fast and then get away.

I was thinking rogue/assassin. But I'm open to suggestions. If someone could post the formulas for determining backstab damage that would be great.

Remember, this isn't a GvG character... there are plenty of templates for those.

Thanks in advance!!!

KenaiDAoC 
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(6/23/03 9:57 am)
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Re: Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
Aracoix/Rogue/Barbarian/Ambi/Throwing/Stormlord/Huntsman

You can stealth, you are a Rogue. You can track, and fly, and obtain the Stormlord Rune for AoE and unveiling stealthers.

Here is a template I have been playing with.

Rogue Hurlbat Throwing Barb

Race = Aracoix

Subtract 5 from DEX and SPI. (25 points to spend)

Creation runes:
Precise (+5% ATR, cost 8)
Raised by barbarians (+5 axe, cost 4)
Woodsman (+5 axe, cost 4)
Put remaining 9 points into INT.

Final stats:
140 STR (w/ 6/25 STR rune)
55 DEX
120 CON (w/ 4/15 CON rune)
70 INT
15 SPI

140 axe (~88)
130 throwing (~88)
70 athletics (~30)
100 light armor (~60)
GM hide (30)
GM sneak (40)
GM rage (40)
GM vengence (40)
1 battlecry
1 shout

Huntsman for Track.

Stormlord:
20 Call Storm (AoE lighting)

The formula for throwing is 55+INT+(stat #1/15)+(stat #2/15)+race bonus+creation runes=skill max

stat #1 for axes is Str, stat #2 is dex.

This guy will hit fast and for decent damage. Track down the Stealther, AoE to reveal, Rage, Kill. Your ATR will be high, Rogue stances have decent +'s to ATR and dual +150ATR Hurlbats will help. This means even Dex Monkeys will go down fast!

You have Stun available in Shout, if they try and run, also 1 point in Battlecry gives a 21% snare.

Since Rogue Barbs get Throwing and Ambi for free, this template works well. The only downside is that Rogue Barbarian stances have no additional damage modifiers, but Rage on a Str based weapon will definately increse your damage.

This is just rough for right now, but it seems fun as hell!

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Mr PeaCH
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(6/23/03 10:27 am)
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Re: Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
KK and his templates... :rolleyes :D

nice novel there, anyhoo

I've heard that a non-peek/steal spec'd thief could be the most deadly rogue out there. I haven't researched a full template but it could happen. Some would say that a thief without steal... what's the point; but they have excellent GM weapon abilities and stances. Worth a look is all I'm sayin.

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Anvil1972
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(6/30/03 11:58 am)
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Re: Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
Morbid,

Thanks for the info.... I was thinking about something very similar lately.

Although here is a good thread discussing the value of going hammers and more con over axes and str. I believe it has merit. Check it out and get back to me. In particular read scooch74's comments.

Also, why go axe creation runes. Were you concerned about raising your int or were you short on training points?

Also, also, =) Does anyone know what int you need to apply the Storm Lord rune for the AOE to reveal stealthers?

Also thinking about getting BH instead of Huntsman for the snare....

Thanks for the help,

Anvil

KenaiDAoC 
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(6/30/03 12:38 pm)
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Re: Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
<<Although here is a good thread discussing the value of going hammers and more con over axes and str. I believe it has merit. Check it out and get back to me. In particular read scooch74's comments.>>
Hammers have better base styles, i.e. a Stun, although short, it's still a stun. When you are a Thrower, Throwing acts as the Mastery so you only spec Axe/Hammer then Throwing. Con is great for the endurance factor. More Con = More Endurance. My little template I posted is *very* rough. The bad thing about ALL Throwing styles is that they only work when in melee range. This is supposed to be fixed. The only reason I Chose Axe, is for the cool looking Hurlbats. Hammers are just as good, and may be slightly better.


<<Also, why go axe creation runes. Were you concerned about raising your int or were you short on training points?>> More Axe, or Hammer for that matter, at Creation is great for raising the cap on training. Higher points in Axe/Hammer equals more damage AND higher ATR. Rogue type characters have no +dmg in their stances so being able to raise damage is key. A cheap way to do this is the Axe Creation runes.

<<Also, also, =) Does anyone know what int you need to apply the Storm Lord rune for the AOE to reveal stealthers?>>
AFAIK, the only requirement for applying a Discipline rune is level 20. Int will effect you "damage" of the Storm Lord rune.

<<Also thinking about getting BH instead of Huntsman for the snare.... >> BH is good, the only reason I chose Huntsman is Barbarians already get a snare with 1 training point in Battle Cry. The Snare effect (which DOES work on players) and Fear (which DOES NOT work on players) is available. Ples you can get "Fluffy" for everyone to kill.

Morbid Crescent
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perdition2
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(7/2/03 8:52 am)
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Re: Need help with stealth, tracker, 1 on 1 PvP template
An idea I had for this type of toon is a Aracoix/rogue/bard

Bards have a great snare and an AOE DOT as well as run and damage buffs. If you plan on killing from stealth, I'd skimp on Defensive skills. They are expensive train wise and if the guys not as good as dead in the first 5 sec you'll be in trouble with a stealther.

I'm trying a Bladeweaver theif for this type of work, if It doesn't pan out I'll change to stealer.

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